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    Obama's faith Christianity? And does FOXNews' Kirsten Powers understand faith in Christ?
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    Christianity:  Is FOXNews' Kirsten Powers clueless?

    Obama:  This is one use of my Blackberry:  Um, uh, my, my Faith, uh, And, uh, Neighborhood Initiative's Director, uh, Joshua Dubois, uh, he -- um, he has, uh, a devotional that he sends to me on my Blackberry each day.  That's, eh, how I start my morning.  Eh, you know, it's got a passage of scripture, eh, in some cases quotes from, uh, uh, other faiths, uh, to reflect on.


    Posted 2010-02-06 12:38 PM (#32972) By: Savvy

    [Please disregard the perspective of the 1st screen on this video. It reflects the view of the video poster at YouTube, only. Thanks!]

    Hannity guest "asks" if Obama reflects on Islamic scripture

    Posted 2010-02-06 12:39 PM (#32973 - in reply to #32972) By: Savvy

    [Lots of talking over one another.  Here's what was said, to the best of my knowledge:] 


    Richard Miniter: Sean, the big question is, "What are the other faiths?" Is he talking about Islam?

    Sean Hannity:  I don't know. 

    Kirsten Powers:  You know, who cares if he's talking about Islam?  It's not -- I mean you don't have to believe in Islam to think that perhaps there could be something that you could look at and it's ...

    Richard Miniter:  You know what?  [Inaudible] ... every president has had a personal relationship with God.  And for him to say, "Well, ...

    Kirsten Powers:  He has a personal relationship with God.

    Richard Miniter: ... some days it's Budha, and some days it's Jesus, ... "  It's kind of strange.

    Kirsten Powers:  It doesn't mean he doesn't have a personal relationship with God.

    2nd female panelist:  But you guys, this administration, especially Obama, when all the stuff came out with Rev. Wright, he was going to a radical church, and I think a lot of Americans want to see that he has picked a church home for his wife, for his children, ...

    Kirsten Powers:  What Americans want to care ... ?  Who cares about this?  That's ridiculous. 

    2nd female panelist:  Well, it was outrageous ...

    Sean Hannity:  A lot of Americans ...

    Richard Miniter:   He was going to a ...

    2nd female panelist:  It was outrageous ...

    Kirsten Powers:  George W. Bush did not go to church.  O.K.?

    2nd female panelist:  But he didn't go to a church that taught and promoted racism ...

    Kirsten Powers:  Can we talk about that?  ...  He didn't go to any church, though.

    Richard Miniter:  Oprah, Oprah left, eh, Rev. Wright's church.  And Obama didn't.

    Kirsten Powers:  Fine.  But the point is ...

    2nd female panelist:  He went there for years ...

    Kirsten Powers:  ... George Bush didn't go to church and he said he was a born again, Christian ...

    Sean Hannity:  Whoa, whoa, whoa ...

    Kirsten Powers:  ... and nobody ...

    Richard Miniter:  Why do you guys always want to bring it back to Bush?

    Kirsten Powers:  ... and nobody ... and that was ...

    2nd female panelist:  ... [we] knew with George Bush ... 

    Kirsten Powers:  That's just lame.  That's a lame response.

    2nd female panelist:  No it's not.

    Kirsten Powers:  Yes it is.

    2nd female panelist:  We didn't know who Obama was.

    Kirsten Powers:  If you're going to say ...

    2nd female panelist:  We atleast knew who George Bush was.

    Kirsten Powers:  If you're going to get all exercised, like you are right now, because we don't -- because he's not picking a church, then where was it when born again George Bush wasn't going to church.  I mean, let people just have ...

    Richard Miniter:  You know what?  It's kind of strange.  It's one of the most important relationships in your life.  You can't decide.  ...

    2nd female panelist:  Absolutely.  Spiritual.

    Richard Miniter:  ... You're getting different ... You know, pick a church.

    Kirsten Powers:  So ... so, was it strange when George W. Bush didn't have a church?

    Sean Hannity:  No, no, ... I know for a fact that he had bible study often in the thing ...

    Kirsten Powers:  But he didn't have a church.

    Sean Hannity:  He wasn't receiving, you know, devotionals, ... daily devotionals, as you [Richard] point out, ... from one faith after another ...

    Kirsten Powers:  What's wrong with that?  He said that he gets daily devotionals and sometimes it has ...

    Sean Hannity:  ... So its ... so is this his way of innoculating himself and preventing himself from being next to a radical pastor?

    Kirsten Powers:  ... something to reflect on something from another faith.

    2nd female panelist:  It's his way of being politically correct.

    Richard Miniter:   Why is he being politically correct on such an important relationship?

    2nd female panelist:  It's his way of being politically correct. 

    Kirsten Powers:  Shocking.


    Posted 2010-02-06 2:14 PM (#32980 - in reply to #32973) By: Savvy

    Kirsten Powers seems to communicate a lack of understanding of the difference between attending church and having a personal relationship with Jesus Christ. Powers expresses contempt for those suggesting Americans care about the faith of our presidents, as well as contempt for the 34% of Americans who consider themselves born again or Evangelical Christians (2008 figure.)

    I don't think Kirsten Powers understands that people who believe the bible the infallible Word of God need not find spiritual guidance in the musings of Budha ... or Muhammad.   


    Posted 2010-02-06 2:34 PM (#32982 - in reply to #32980) By: Savvy

    [Alleged] President Obama must have forgotten his teleprompter.
    Posted 2010-02-06 5:08 PM (#32990 - in reply to #32972) By: SonofAsaph

    It sure seems that way.

    One more point about Kirsten Powers' misconceptions about the God of Judeo-Christian faith:  She doesn't seem to understand God requires that His people reserve their devotion and worship for Him, exclusively.


    Exodus 20 (NKJV)

    The Ten Commandments

     1 And God spoke all these words, saying:
           2I am the LORD your God, who brought you out of the land of Egypt, out of the house of bondage.
           3You shall have no other gods before Me.
           4 “You shall not make for yourself a carved image—any likeness of anything that is in heaven above, or that is in the earth beneath, or that is in the water under the earth; 5 you shall not bow down to them nor serve them. For I, the LORD your God, am a jealous God, visiting the iniquity of the fathers upon the children to the third and fourth generations of those who hate Me, 6 but showing mercy to thousands, to those who love Me and keep My commandments.
           7 “You shall not take the name of the LORD your God in vain, for the LORD will not hold him guiltless who takes His name in vain ...

    Don Stewart (Calvary Chapels) writes ...

    The world in which the Bible was written was a world that worshipped many different gods. The founder of the Hebrew race, Abraham, was called out from a polytheistic culture by God to be a witness to the one, true God. Worship of one God is called monotheism. The mission of the nation Israel was to witness to the world about the only God who existed and who can save.

    "You are my witnesses," declares the LORD, "and my servant whom I have chosen, so that you may know and believe me and understand that I am he. Before me no god was formed, nor will there be one after me. I, even I, am the LORD, and apart from me there is no Savior (Isaiah 43:10,11).

    The Old Testament book of Hosea pictures God as the loving husband who marries a beautiful wife (Israel) who betrays Him by playing the harlot -- going after other gods.  Yet His love remains steadfast.  In the story, the harlot sinks to great depths living with someone not her husband who does not care for her.  Yet her loving husband brings money to the scoundrel man to provide for His wife's food and clothing, though she lives with another.

    Finally the man she lives with grows tired of her and sells her at auction on the slave block.

    Her husband, Hosea, bids more than all the rest and redeems the wife He loves to Himself.  His unending love and care for His wife wins her heart back to Himself ... just as God has unending love and care for Israel.

    In the Gospels, Jesus reiterates the first commandment and expounds ...

    Mark 12: 26 - 34 (NKJV)

    ... 26 But concerning the dead, that they rise, have you not read in the book of Moses, in the burning bush passage, how God spoke to him, saying, ‘I am the God of Abraham, the God of Isaac, and the God of Jacob’?[c] 27 He is not the God of the dead, but the God of the living. You are therefore greatly mistaken.”

    The Scribes: Which Is the First Commandment of All?

    28 Then one of the scribes came, and having heard them reasoning together, perceiving[d] that He had answered them well, asked Him, “Which is the first commandment of all?”
    29 Jesus answered him, “The first of all the commandments is: ‘Hear, O Israel, the LORD our God, the LORD is one. 30 And you shall love the LORD your God with all your heart, with all your soul, with all your mind, and with all your strength.’[e] This is the first commandment.[f] 31 And the second, like it, is this: ‘You shall love your neighbor as yourself.’[g] There is no other commandment greater than these.”
    32 So the scribe said to Him, “Well said, Teacher. You have spoken the truth, for there is one God, and there is no other but He. 33 And to love Him with all the heart, with all the understanding, with all the soul,[h] and with all the strength, and to love one’s neighbor as oneself, is more than all the whole burnt offerings and sacrifices.”
    34 Now when Jesus saw that he answered wisely, He said to him, “You are not far from the kingdom of God.”
    But after that no one dared question Him.

    In the New Testament, the Church is pictured as the bride of Christ:

    Ephesians 5:22-33 (New King James Version)


    Marriage—Christ and the Church

    22 Wives, submit to your own husbands, as to the Lord. 23 For the husband is head of the wife, as also Christ is head of the church; and He is the Savior of the body. 24 Therefore, just as the church is subject to Christ, so let the wives be to their own husbands in everything.
    25 Husbands, love your wives, just as Christ also loved the church and gave Himself for her, 26 that He might sanctify and cleanse her with the washing of water by the word, 27 that He might present her to Himself a glorious church, not having spot or wrinkle or any such thing, but that she should be holy and without blemish. 28 So husbands ought to love their own wives as their own bodies; he who loves his wife loves himself. 29 For no one ever hated his own flesh, but nourishes and cherishes it, just as the Lord does the church. 30 For we are members of His body,[a] of His flesh and of His bones. 31 “For this reason a man shall leave his father and mother and be joined to his wife, and the two shall become one flesh.”[b] 32 This is a great mystery, but I speak concerning Christ and the church. 33 Nevertheless let each one of you in particular so love his own wife as himself, and let the wife see that she respects her husband.


    Throughout the scriptures it is clear:  There is ONE God, and He desires we worship Him as God, exclusively.  I think this is sometimes referred to as "Godly jealousy."  It is not human jealousy, but a love that is just and right.

    Yet Kirsten Powers flippantly suggests it's reasonable for someone calling himself a Christian to take spiritual guidance from a multitude of various faiths.

    So I conclude Kirsten Powers doesn't understand Christianity.

    If I have to choose whether to accept the contempt of Kirsten Powers or the love of God, I gladly accept the love of God and believe what He says is true.




    Posted 2010-02-06 9:31 PM (#33005 - in reply to #32990) By: Savvy

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